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Episode 84 - David Hernandez Jr. Saves the Brunswick Four

This week the guys discuss a historic stand for LGBTQ+ rights in Canada when the Brunswick Four lesbians fight for their right to party and the assassination attempt against U.S. House of Representatives member, Gabby Giffords, whose life was saved by her openly gay intern, Daniel Hernandez, Jr.

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Episode 83 - Let's Talk About 2020

This week the guys recap top 5 LTAGS moments of 2020!

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Episode 82 - Ma Rainey and David Sedaris Shake their Bon Bon

This week the guys invite Dusty as a special guest host! They talk about the mother of Blues Ma Rainey; the start of the Latin Explosion with Ricky Martin, and the holiday classics of David Sedaris.

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Episode 81 - Sarah Paulson is Working 9 to 5 in Australia

This week the guys invite, Chris from Our Spoopy Podcast on the show. The topics include same sex marriage in Australia; the legendary movie 9 to 5, and the illustrious career of Sarah Paulson.

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Episode 80 - Raven has a Vision of Apples in Texas

This week Thomas and Kendall discuss Apple winning against Anti-LGBT Councilmen in Texas and explore why Raven Symone is So Raven.

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Episode 79 - The Bishop shouts "Free Britney!" at the AIDS Conference

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss the first AIDS Conference at the Whitehouse, the law of Buggery in Ireland, and Pop Icon Britney Spears.

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Episode 78 - The Sad Laws That Rounded Up Gays and Judge Hampton Doesn't Care

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss the anti-gay laws that rounded up men suspected of being gay in Nazi Germany and Sioux City, Iowa and Judge Jack Hampton who was censured for anti-gay remarks he made about two murder victims who were gay, Tommy Lee Trimble and Lloyd Griffin,  a case over which he presided.

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Episode 77 - Jodie Foster tells Phyllis Frye to Call Me Maybe

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall celebrate the life and influence of three icons: Jodie Foster, Phyllis Frye, and Carly Rae Jepsen.

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Episode 76 - Terry Sweeney and Pedro Zamora get GLAAD

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss the advocacy of Pedro Zamora for HIV/AIDS, the impact of GLAAD, and Terry Sweeney's historic SNL debut.

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Episode 75 - Bowen Yang presents Tammy Baldwin a piece of Tom of Finland Art

This Week Thomas, Toni, and Kendall talk about the trailblazing life of Senator Tammy Baldwin, The early rise of Comedian Bowen Yang, and the Iconic art of Tom of Finland.

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Episode 74 - David McReynolds and Tim Cook Remember Allen Schindler

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about the first openly gay person to run for president, David McReynolds, Tim Cook becoming the first openly gay man to lead a Fortune 500 company, and the tragic murder of Allen Schindler.

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Bonus Episode - 2020 Election Edition

An interview with Former Houston Mayor, Annise Parker. We talk with her about her work as an activist, a politician (first openly LGBTQ mayor of a major U.S. city!), and CEO & President of LGBTQ Victory Fund and Victory Institute.

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Episode 73 - BD Wong Advocates for Same Sex Benefits at Lafayette Baths

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about the trailblazing work of BD Wong, the raid at Lafayette Bathhouse in New York City, and Boeing's move to offer same sex domestic partner benefits to its employees.

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Episode 72 - Dusty Does Gay Stuff

This week we celebrate National Coming Out Day!  Last year on Episode 19, Thomas, Tony, and Kendall shared their coming out stories. This year they invited long-time support and friend of the show, Dusty, to share his story.  You don't want to miss hearing about his coming out journey - from a shy young boy in school, to a married man with children, working in education, to a proud out gay man today.  A story worth the listen!

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Episode 71 - Urvashi Vaid, Walter Jenkins, and Althea Garrison Talk About Politics

Thomas, Toni, and Kendall talk Politics. They discuss the activism of Urvashi Vaid, the scandal involving Walter Jenkins, and Althea Garrison being the first Transgender Person elected to a state legislature. 

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Episode 70 - Annie Leibovitz photographs Gus Kenworthy while listening to Paul Jabara

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about Gus Kenworthy blazing trails for LGBTQ athletes, the hits of Paul Jabara, and the infamous artistic works of Annie Leibovitz

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Episode 69 - Billy Porter and Cassidy Lynn Campbell celebrate the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall Discuss historical LGBTQ wins; Billy Porter's historical Emmy Award win, Cassidy Lynn Campbell's homecoming queen, and the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

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Episode 68 - Billy Eichner ACTs UP in Mommie Dearest

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about the comedy of Billy Eichner, the Protest of ACT UP on Wall Street, and the Cult Classic Mommie Dearest.

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Episode 67 - Rachel Maddow and Edie Windsor get GAY!

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall kiki about the legacy of Edie Windsor, the premiere of the Rachel Maddow Show, and the history of the word gay!

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Episode 66 - Lily Tomlin and Dr. Hooker ACT UP

Thomas, Toni, and Kendall discuss the life of Lily Tomlin, the legacy of Dr. Evelyn Hooker who advocated to declassify homosexuality as a mental disorder, and the prank on Senator Jesse Helms courtesy of ACT UP.

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Episode 65 - Tim Cook, Candis Cayne, and Renee Richards have a KiKi

Thomas, Toni, and Kendall discuss the ascension of Tim Cook to the CEO position, The Pioneering Career of Transgender Icon Candis Cayne, and the life of Transgender Tennis Star Renee Richards.

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Episode 64 - Jose Sarria and Rikki Streicher walk down the staircase

Thomas, Toni, and Kendall discuss LGBTQ political pioneer Jose Sarria, San Fransisco LBGTQ Activist Rikki Streicher, and the film Staircase.

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Episode 63 - Melvin Boozer and Keith Haring do Magic

Thomas, Toni and Kendall discuss the nomination of Melvin Boozer as Vice President, the life and art of Keith Haring, and the story of Magic Johnson

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Episode 62 - Steve Lobbies George Bush in the Name of William Simpson

This week Thomas, Toni, and Kendall kiki about these topics: the nomination of George W. Bush, the Murder of William Simpson, and the life of Steve Endean.

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Episode 61 - Alexis Arquette eats her Kooky's on MTV

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss the week in LGBTQ history and dive into these topics: the lesbian bar Kooky's, the life of Alexis Arquette, the launch of MTV.

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Episode 60 - The Catholics play a Trick on Chrysler

Thomas, Toni, and Kendall talk about Catholicism, review the movie Trick, and discuss Ron Woods fighting for gay right at the Chrysler Corporation.

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Episode 59 - Drew and Cheyenne take a peak "Behind the Mask"

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss the lives and coming out stories of these LGBTQ celebrities - actress, director, film producer, feminist, Drew Barrymore, actor and Broadway star, Cheyenne Jackson, and former MLB umpire, Dave Pallone, and his memoir, "Behind the Mask," hitting The New York Times' Best Seller's list.

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Episode 58 - Lester and Nancy watch Megan Rapinoe win a World Cup

This week Thomas, Toni and Kendall talk about these topics the triumphant soccer star and Olympic gold medalist, Megan Rapinoe,  the hidden story of former Wyoming Senator Lester Hunt, the lackluster support from former First Lady, Nancy Reagan, for the LGBTQ community and early AIDS victims in the 1980s.

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Episode 57 - Logo TV debuts with a tribute to Paul Broussard & reruns of Real World San Francisco

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall kiki, get heated, and remember these major events in LGBTQ history: the premiere of The Real World San Francisco and it's trailblazing HIV / AIDS storyline, the brutal murder of Paul Broussard in the context of today's fight for equality, and the debut of the Logo TV channel, the first LGBTQ advertiser supported channel in the U.S.

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Episode 56 - George Michael waves the Pride Flag for The Upstairs Lounge

Join Thomas, Tony, and Kendall as they kiki and dive into the life of gay pop icon George Michael, remember The Upstairs Lounge fire in New Orleans, which resulted in the deaths of 29 members and allies of the LGBTQ community, and talk about the Pride flag and the first time the flag was displayed and the evolution of the LGBTQ community's symbol of hope!

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Episode 55 - Craig Rodwell Says Hi to The Queen at the International Conference on AIDS

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss these topics: Gay rights activist Craig Rodwell, the classic drag queen pageant documentary "The Queen," and the time President George HW Bush declined an invitation to attend the 6th International Conference on AIDS to speak at an event for anti-gay Senator Jesse Helms. 

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Episode 54 - One Magazine Interviews Cole Porter About His Time With Laverne Cox

Thomas, Tony and Kendall Discuss the landmark Supreme Court case with One Magazine, A historic Time Magazine cover with Laverne Cox, and the historic life and accomplishments of Cole Porter.

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Episode 53 - Walt Whitman and Anderson Cooper read poetry at the YMCA

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss Anderson Cooper's life and impact on journalism, review the debate surrounding the sexuality of Walt Whitman, and dig into the connection between the YMCA and gay men.

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Episode 52 - Let's Talk About Anniversaries!

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall finish out a year in podcasting with this celebratory recap of the year's episodes. Check out some of their favourite moments.

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Episode 51 - Cason Crane takes International Mr. Leather to Harvard Secret Court

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about Cason Crane becoming the first openly LGBTQ person to climb the Seven Summits, discuss the International Mr. Leather competition, and learn about the Harvard Secret Court, which sought to investigate and remove gay students from Harvard.

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Episode 50 - Liberace and Janet Jackson go to Cairo

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about the closeted life of Liberace, Diva-ship and Ally-ship of Janet Jackson, and the unjust arrest of 52 men in Cairo, Egypt.

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Episode 49 - Billie Jean and Christine see *NSYNC live

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about the struggles of coming out with Lance Bass, Billie Jean King, and Christine Jorgesen.

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Episode 48 - Lord John Brown and Jason Collins have a Lavender Scare

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss two high profile coming out stories with former BP CEO Lord John Brown and NBA pro Jason Collin, and they talk about the struggle for lesbians to have their voices heard as the women shake things up with the National Organization for Women in what is known as the Lavender Menace.

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Episode 47 - Julius hosts a Sip In to discuss the 1st AIDS case, discrimination, & Hate Crime Stats

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about some milestone events: A Sip-In at Julius in New York City, the first AIDS patient in the USA, and the inclusion of Gays and Lesbians in the Hate Crimes Statistics Data collection.

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Episode 46 - Deborah Batts and Abraham Lincoln become Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss the first openly LGBTQ federal district judge, Deborah Batts, the curiously gay nature of Abraham Lincoln, and the founding of The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence

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Episode 45 - Robin Tyler and Vladmir Luxuria stick up for Ryan White

The boys discuss the first out lesbian on live T.V., Robin Tyler, the brave life of Ryan White, and Vladmir Luxuria the first openly trangender person in European governent.

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Episode 44 - Selena Quintanilla and Marlon Brando perform at Harvey Milk High School

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall kiki about legends when they discuss the life and murder of Selena Quintanilla Perez, the iconic career and rumors of Marlon Brando, and the LGBTQ school, Harvey Milk High School

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Episode 43 - Perez Hilton discusses a Supreme Court Ruling at the White House

Thomas, Toni, and Kendall kiki about the controversial celebrity news entrepreneur Perez Hilton, a Supreme Court ruling about gay teachers in Oklahoma, and the first White House meeting to discuss LGBTQ rights. 

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Episode 42 - Rosie & Bayard Aren't Allowed to March in a St. Patty's Day Parade Because They're Gay

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss comedian, actress, and power lesbian, Rosie O’Donnell, civil rights & LGBT rights activist and mastermind of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, Bayard Rustin, and the unhappy times the St. Patrick’s Day Parade in New York City cast on LGBT organizations by not allowing them to march in their parade.

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Episode 41 - Lorraine Hansberry Calls the Police on John Wayne Gacy From her Dover Hotel Room

The boys discuss The famous playwright Lorraine Hansberry, the detestable John Wayne Gacy, and the police raid on the Dover Hotel

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Episode 40 - Jenny Jones invites Roseanne and Jean O'Leary to Talk About a Lesbian Kiss

This week Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss feminist and lesbian pioneer Jean O'Leary, a lesbian kiss on the TV show Roseanne, and the tragic murder of a guest who revealed his gay crush on the talk show Jenny Jones.

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Episode 39 - Elizabeth Taylor shouts "I Will Survive" to Jerry Falwell

This week the boys discuss Elizabeth Taylor's selfless fight to support her friends with HIV/AIDS, the Iconic disco hit "I Will Survive" winning the first and only grammy for a disco song, and the fear-mongering of Jerry Falwell

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Episode 38 - When Slyvia, Dame Edna and Audre kiki

The boys discuss Sylvia Rivera, Dame Edna's legacy, and Audre Lorde's might.

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Episode 37 - Michael Sam and Gavin Newsom score a win for Larry King

Thomas, Toni and Kendall discuss Michael Sam coming out, Gavin Newsom Marrying gay couples in San Francisco, and the controversial case surrounding Larry King's Death.

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Episode 36 - Jon and Gertie join the Drag Race

Thomas, Tony and Kendall discuss the premiere of Rupaul's Drag Race, Republican House Rep. Jon Hinson's sex scandal, and writer, Gertrude Stein's checkered past.

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Episode 35 - The Golden Gate Bridge Protest starring Gia Carangi in her own WWII

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss the tragedy of LGBTQ people in WWII, the life of Model Gia Carangi, and The Golden Gate Bridge Protest.

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Episode 34 - James Gaylord teaches Pete Buttigieg about the Gay-Straight Alliance

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall talk about gay stuff: The Gay-Straight Alliances in schools, Gaylord v. Tacoma School District, and presidential hopeful, Pete Buttigieg.

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Episode 33 - Anita Bryant's L-Word: Legislation

Thomas, Kendall, and Tony talk about the hit television series "The L-Word", discuss the Anti-Gay Activist Anita Bryant,  and run through the 1975 Civil Rights Amendment Act.

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Episode 32 - Jack, Karl, and Paul OH MY!

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall discuss three special guys: Paul Lynde, Karl Baer, and Jack Baker.

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Episode 31 - Sandy Boys read about the The Transexual Phenomenon in Life Magazine

Thomas, Tony, And Kendall discuss firsts - the first crossover gay pornography film "The Boys in the Sand," the first use of the term transexual in the book, "The Transexual Phenomenon," and the first story by a major news magazine, "Life," which discussed the positive change being pursued by the gay rights movement.

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Episode 30 - Billy Tipton and Alan Turing Join the Society for Human Rights

This week the boys kiki about jazz musician Billy Tipton, mathematical genius Alan Turing, and the Society for Human Rights.

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Episode 29 - Gay Government workers writing the DSM in Philadelphia

Thomas, Toni, and Kendall talk about the removal of homosexuality  from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorder,  Review the movie Philadelphia, and discuss the ban of Homosexuals working in government.

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Episode 28 - Brandon Teena and David Kopay see Molly at her house

Thomas, Kendall, and Tony take on the David Kopay story, talk about the life of Brandon Teena, and discuss the infamous Molly Houses of Victorian Era England.

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Episode 27 - Queer as Bette in Hawaii

The boys gush over Bette Middler, discuss the series Queer as Folk, and talk about the journey of marriage equality in Hawaii.

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Episode 26 - Oscar Wilde and Billy Strahorn head to Ecuador

The boys write up some facts about Oscar Wilde, get jazzy with Billy Strayhorn, and get gay with Ecuador.

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Episode 25 - Rock Hudson hanging out on West Street in his Calvins

The Boys remember the West Street Massacre, talk about the life of Rock Hudson, and get in between Calvin Klein and his jeans.

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Episode 24 - Oprah enjoys an Early Frost with a Normal Heart

Thomas, Kendall, and Tony discuss the HIV/AIDS Episode of the Oprah Winfrey Show, review the made for T.V. movie an Early Frost, and reflect upon a local production of "A Normal Heart".

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Episode 23 - A Threesome with Eleanor, Gerard, and Elaine

The boys discuss the Political firsts of Eleanor Roosevelt, Jared Polis, and Elaine Noble.

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Episode 22 - Harper's Magazine Special Edition: Liberty and Hate Crimes

The boys discuss the raid on Harper's Magazine, talk about the building of the Statue of Liberty, and recognize the enactment of the Matthew Shephard and James Byrd Jr. hate crimes prevention act.

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Episode 21 - When Harry met Hillary... oh, and Leonard was there, too.

They boys remember Harry Hay and Leonard Matlovich and celebrate Hillary Clinton.

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Let's Talk About Gay Stuff Quiz Show Edition Ep. 8: HRC

Join us for another episode of Let's Talk About Gay Stuff Quiz Show Edition, with special guest Tom Jackobs a representative from the Human Rights Campaign.

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Episode 20 - Divine Broke her Back on the Mountain during the March on Washington for Gay Rights

Thomas, Tony, and Kendall celebrate the National March on Washington for Lesbian and Gay Rights, discuss the life of Drag Queen Divine, and review  the short story Brokeback Mountain.

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Episode 19 - Coming Out Stories

In honor of National Coming Out Day the Boys tell their coming out stories.

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Let's Talk About Gay Stuff Quiz Show Edition Ep. 7: Straight Allies

Martha makes her triumphant return and she brings our first straight guest!  Catch some laughs with Martha and hear, Melissa, talk about her role as a straight ally.

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Episode 18 - Designing Women celebrate LGBTQ+ History Month with Truman Capote

The boys celebrate LGBTQ+ History Month, discuss the life and times of Truman Capote, and delve into the television series Designing Women.

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Let's Talk About Gay Stuff Quiz Show Edition Ep. 6 - LGBT Chamber of Commerce

Join us for another special episode of Let's Talk About Gay Stuff - Quiz Show edition. In this episode, we invite Tammy Wallace: Co-founder and Chair of the Greater Houston LGBT Chamber of Commerce and Founder of EnFocus Group. Tammy takes on the home team, against co-host Toni.

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Episode 17 - Oliver Sipple and Jeffrey Wasson join The Modern Family

The boys discuss the Kentucky case, Commonwealth of Kentucky V. Wasson, talk about Oliver Sipple, and Kiki about The Modern Family television series.

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Episode 16 - By the Will and Grace of the Daughters of Bilitis, It Gets Better.

The Boys gush over Will and Grace, Remember the Daughters of Bilitis, and discuss the It Gets Better Campaign.

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Episode 15 - Ellen watches The Golden Girls on 9/11

The boys kiki about Ellen Degeneres, discuss The Golden Girls, and remember September 11th.

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Episode 14 - Beyonce and Freddie run up on Dan White

This week the boys discuss Beyonce running the world, Freddie Mercury rocking it, and Dan White ruining it.

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Episode 13 - Michael Jackson asks the Wizard of Oz about the Kinsey Scale

This week the boys kiki about the The Wizard of Oz and discuss the mixed legacies of Michael Jackson and Alfred Kinsey.

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Episode 12 - Chelsea Manning and Marsha P. Johnson Celebrate the Trans Flag

Join in the kiki this week, as the boys discuss the controversial story of Chelsea Manning, celebrate the life of Marsha P. Johnson, and recognize the history of today's trans pride flag.

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Let's Talk About Gay Stuff Quiz Show Edition Ep. 5 - House of Dior

Join us for another special episode of Let's Talk About Gay Stuff - Quiz Show edition.  In this episode, we invite Miss LSVA and Miss Tony’s Corner Pocket Bearded Queen, Jacklin Dior, and her drag daughter, Dixie Wrekt, to the kiki.  Listen to this Mother vs Daughter knock out, “drag” down Quiz Show edition and learn about the Lone Star Volleyball Association and drag culture. 

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Episode 11 - Jim McGreevey and Lady Bunny watch As the World Turns

This week we discuss the first gay male kiss on daytime T.V., Governor McGreevey's scandal, and the incomparable Lady Bunny.

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Episode 10 - Obama and Warhol go to Paris

This week the kiki goes from Barack Obama to Andy Warhol and all the way to Paris...Paris Is Burning that is. 

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Episode 9 - Beth Ford and Tim Gunn kiki at Compton’s Cafeteria

This week we chat about Tim Gunn, revisit the Compton’s Cafeteria riots, and celebrate Beth Ford. 

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Let's Talk About Gay Stuff: Quiz Show Edition Ep. 4 – Best of the Besties

Join us for another special episode of Let's Talk About Gay Stuff - Quiz Show edition.  In this episode, we invite our first female guest and Kendall bestie, Martha.  She was visiting from out of town, so we decided to test her knowledge of gay stuff against her BFF, Kendall.  Which best friend comes out on top? 

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Episode 8 - JLo Asks Steve Rubell to Join the Boy Scouts

This week we learn about Steve Rubell, discuss policy changes with the Boy Scouts, and obsess over Jennifer Lopez.

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Episode Quiz Show Edition Ep 3 - Battle of the Boyfriends

Join us for another special episode of Let's Talk About Gay Stuff - Quiz Show edition.  This Battle of the Boyfriends Quiz Show Edition episode features two of our hosts’ boyfriends’ Spencer and Ben.  While love is abound for Spencer and Ben, our hosts, Thomas, Tony, and Kendall, have invited the boyfriends to test their knowledge of gay stuff (and if they actually have been listening to the podcast).  Take a listen and see which boyfriend gets to keep his gay card? 

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Episode 7 - A Queer Eye Spots Barney Frank in the Compton Cafeteria

This week we discuss Queer Eye For The Straight Guy, The Compton's Cafeteria, and Barney Frank.

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Episode Quiz Show Edition Ep 2 - FrontRunners Houston

Join us for another special episode of Let's Talk About Gay Stuff - Quiz Show edition.  Thomas, Tony, and Kendall invited InstaCouple and FrontRunners emeritus leaders, Daryl and Evan, to join in a kiki and a test of their knowledge of gay stuff.  Take a listen to learn about the LGBT+ group FrontRunners and learn which half of this InstaCouple gets to keep his gay card? 

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Episode 6 - Kyrsten and Milton Walk Houston

This week we kiki about Milton Berle, Revisit Houston LGBTQ protest, and chat about Kyrsten Sinema.

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Episode Quiz Show Edition Ep 1 - Our Spoopy Podcast

Our premiere episode of Let's Talk About Gay Stuff - Quiz Show edition.  Thomas, Tony, and Kendall invited the hosts of Our Spoopy Podcast, Spencer and Chris, to join in a kiki and a test of their knowledge of gay stuff.  Will they earn their gay card? 

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Episode 5 - Frida Kahlo, Declares Idependence and Enters a League of Her Own

This week we talk about a League of Their Own, Discuss the Declaration of Independence, and learn about Frida Khalo.

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Episode 4 - Lawrence takes a trip from Texas to Stonewall with Pride.

This week we reflect on a big week in LGBT history. We cover some intimate details on Lawrence V. Texas, remember Stonewall, and celebrate Pride!

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Episode 3 - Same Sex Benefits for Princess Diana and Sally Ride

This week we remember Sally Ride, discuss Obama's 2009 policies on benefits for same sex couples, and we dish about the bombshell book about Princess Di.

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Episode 2 - Boy George and Judy Garland remember Pulse

This week we discuss Boy George, we remember the events of Pulse Nightclub, and we KiKi about Judy Garland.

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Episode 1 - When James Buchanan gave Marilyn Monroe an STD

Take a listen to this week in LGBT+ history.  This week we hit topics ranging from politics with a dish on James Buchanan to a discussion about the first reported cases of HIV/AIDS and a kiki on pop culture phenoms Marilyn Monroe and Sex and the City.

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Episode Preview: First Listen

Join Tony, Thomas, and Kendall as they kiki about what you can expect in this new podcast as well as a little about themselves!

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